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11. "RE: Shorties door jam..."
Jun-13-05, 11:00 PM (EDT)
Sometimes a little door jam is what a person needs... it could be better then a little toe jam, or even belly button jam. Sometimes it is best with toast.

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12. "RE: Shorties door jam..."
Jun-14-05, 01:57 AM (EDT)
I second that !!


 

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13. "RE: Shorties door jam..."
Jun-14-05, 09:29 PM (EDT)
Ok, here (I hope) is what you folks were asking for.
I went outside to the junkpile to the kit cars that were thrown together in my backyard and here is what I found, complete with pictures.
Look at the red door jamb. It appears stock with no modifications.
Compare it to the bare door jamb in the second pic. The first car is the shorty, and the second is the motion kit.
Please note that the wheel openings measure exactly 30 inches across at the widest point, thats both cars, Just for the hell of it, I uncovered the other shark and it is 30 inches too.
The wheelwells are centered over the rear wheels on both cars. It is the door skin treatment that gives the illusion that the wheel opening is moved, it is not. The design of the wheel well is not as round on the red car as it is on the other two. In an effort to save some space, please refer to the pics of the entire cars on my owners page for comparison.
Here is the kicker. Note the pic of my red cars door. I drew lines on the glass to show the differences. The mid body line is 1.5 inches longer on the red car than on the others.
The lower door is a little over 1 inch longer than stock. From the bodyline to the top of the door, there is no modifications at all.
This is due to nothing more than a piece that has been glassed onto the doors. It helps accent the wheel opening to give it that gm look like the showcar.
The doorskin is not modified, just a piece glassed onto it to add that custom look.
The last shot shows approximately where the piece was glassed to the orig. skin.
I hope this clears up the mystery.
I am always here to answer as much as I can and also to take criticism both of my cars and personally.
Tuesdays Gone.....

"Randy"

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14. "RE: Shorties door jam..."
Jun-14-05, 10:04 PM (EDT)
Thanks! Now wasn't that fun! (If only that guy had a clue the difference between the cars built in 2 weeks by the Motion crew and the cars built in months - years in people's "back yards").

So it appears that it is "just" a wheel flair applied creatively.

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15. "RE: Shorties door jam..."
Jun-14-05, 11:24 PM (EDT)
I love it!
Thanks alot Randy, i realy appreciate your time and effort in helping
me and others to better understand the mysteries behind the Short Tail's
Bee-hind.

I dont know if it's just me but, this also brings up another topic about
the same subject. Want to hear it?, here we go...

The Mako Shark II Concept car doesn't appear to have fender flares any
bigger than your average C3 and, there pretty small. It looks to me
that to achive this look out side of "door skins", you would need
these bigger flares which leads me to this:

On the concept car, was it really that it's door skin was extended
back and on the Maco it's just the flares that adds this illusion?

I know this may seem a little out of scope, just something i'm still
scratching my head about.

I better start glassing soon, purchase some door skins and start
experimenting.

McBrain
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Power hath decended forth from thy Foot so our tires may
swiftly carry out thy command. And we shall flow a rubber
river forth to thee and teeming with Maco's shall it ever be.


 

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16. "RE: Shorties door jam..."
Jun-15-05, 00:44 AM (EDT)
Good shots Randy+ thanks. I guess it is all done with smoke and mirrors. It does look shorter when you see the whole car. - Criticizm- not for you - come on !! Can I say that I dont like the 'chopped off look' that was left when the door is open. Looks kind of cut-up. No offense. I would still buy it if I had the moolah !!


 

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17. "RE: Shorties door jam..."
Jun-15-05, 01:05 AM (EDT)
Scott thats why i was contemplating the door skin theory because
you wouldn't get that chopped up look. Not to say the the way
the shorties are built is bad, no i like them just wanted to figure
it out and in doing so i learn that the true path is to the skins.

Thanks for the informative photos and information Randy.

McBrain
And Maco Lovers we shall be, for Chevy my Vette for thee.
Power hath decended forth from thy Foot so our tires may
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river forth to thee and teeming with Maco's shall it ever be.


 

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18. "RE: Shorties door jam..."
Jun-15-05, 01:22 AM (EDT)

Looks dead on to me aside from the width of the flares.

Anybody have any ideas on how to accomplish this? A template
or other ideas please feel free.


McBrain
And Maco Lovers we shall be, for Chevy my Vette for thee.
Power hath decended forth from thy Foot so our tires may
swiftly carry out thy command. And we shall flow a rubber
river forth to thee and teeming with Maco's shall it ever be.


 

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19. "RE: Shorties door jam..."
Jun-15-05, 08:02 AM (EDT)
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Good shots Randy+ thanks. I guess it is all done with smoke and mirrors. It does look shorter when you see the whole car. - Criticizm- not for you - come on !! Can I say that I dont like the 'chopped off look' that was left when the door is open. Looks kind of cut-up. No offense. I would still buy it if I had the moolah !!


It's all about expressing one's opinion. Personally, I wouldn't go out seeking a short tail car version myself, but since this one came up, I figured "why not?". Seeing the car in person does give a different perspective. It has a look like a "funny car" from the 70s.
When (if) I get it painted and on the road, it may look better.
Actually, now it couldnt look much worse.

"Randy"


 

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20. "RE: Shorties door jam..."
Jun-16-05, 09:27 AM (EDT)
Yeh- like I said before- I'm sure it grows on you after a while. When I was looking at the possibilty of buying it from you- it started looking better in time. Definately different. It does kind of have that funny-car look. Now if you could just make the whole body tip up- you'd be all set. It looks fine with the door closed. when it is open- the rear 1/4 panel should be finished off in the wheelwell. Just a little cleanup. Again- good pic's.


 

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